Author Topic: De-chroming a Skillet  (Read 13113 times)

Offline Al Andrews

  • WAGS member
  • Regular member
  • *****
  • Posts: 804
  • Karma: +0/-0
  • WAGS: The heartbeat of cast iron collecting!
Re: De-chroming a Skillet
« Reply #20 on: August 20, 2005, 03:03:26 PM »
Jerry, the ratios were provided by a replating document my brother inlaw is using to plate some parts -- I assumed they were good numbers.  I won't screw up another pan!!!!

Al

Offline Greg Stahl

  • Administrator
  • Regular member
  • *****
  • Posts: 14493
  • Karma: +3/-0
  • Ole Scratch
Re: De-chroming a Skillet
« Reply #21 on: August 20, 2005, 04:01:50 PM »
Isn't battery acid, just sulfuric acid?  If so, what is the molarity, as molarity does change and differ and would greatly affect the final molarity of your solution.
"NO MORE MISTER NICE GUY!!" Alice Cooper.

Offline Jerry Cermack

  • Regular member
  • *
  • Posts: 6014
  • Karma: +0/-0
  • Collector
Re: De-chroming a Skillet
« Reply #22 on: August 20, 2005, 08:56:16 PM »
Quote
Isn't battery acid, just sulfuric acid?  If so, what is the molarity, as molarity does change and differ and would greatly affect the final molarity of your solution.

Yes, its sulphuric.......but you lost me doc....what is molarity?.... :D

I havent found the recipe I was given, but it seems to me it was like a cup of acid to 5 gallon of water?......I'd think too much acid would eat up metal without using a charger? [smiley=unsure.gif]
« Last Edit: August 20, 2005, 08:59:36 PM by Jerry_Cermack »
Jerry

Offline Greg Stahl

  • Administrator
  • Regular member
  • *****
  • Posts: 14493
  • Karma: +3/-0
  • Ole Scratch
Re: De-chroming a Skillet
« Reply #23 on: August 20, 2005, 09:04:20 PM »
Molarity is the number of moles per liter of water
"NO MORE MISTER NICE GUY!!" Alice Cooper.

Offline Jerry Cermack

  • Regular member
  • *
  • Posts: 6014
  • Karma: +0/-0
  • Collector
Re: De-chroming a Skillet
« Reply #24 on: August 21, 2005, 12:24:13 PM »
Quote
Molarity is the number of moles per liter of water

Well I will be dam*....lol....all the moles in Mississippi are in the ground?   ;D



PS.......are you talking shorthand for molecules?
Jerry

Offline Greg Stahl

  • Administrator
  • Regular member
  • *****
  • Posts: 14493
  • Karma: +3/-0
  • Ole Scratch
Re: De-chroming a Skillet
« Reply #25 on: August 21, 2005, 08:25:31 PM »
Quote
Quote
Molarity is the number of moles per liter of water

Well I will be dam*....lol....all the moles in Mississippi are in the ground?   ;D



PS.......are you talking shorthand for molecules?
NOPE, one mole is equal to Avogadro's number of molecules in a mole.  Avogadro's number = 602000000000000000000000 or 6.02 x 10 to the 23rd power.

Thus, one mole of anything has the same number of molecules or Avogadro's number.  
« Last Edit: August 22, 2005, 06:57:32 AM by admin »
"NO MORE MISTER NICE GUY!!" Alice Cooper.

Offline Jerry Cermack

  • Regular member
  • *
  • Posts: 6014
  • Karma: +0/-0
  • Collector
Re: De-chroming a Skillet
« Reply #26 on: August 21, 2005, 09:21:17 PM »
Quote
NOPE, one mole is equal to Avogadro's number of molecules in a mole.  Avogadro's number = 620000000000000000000000 or 6.2 x 10 to the 23rd power.

Thus, one mole of anything has the same number of molecules or Avogadro's number.  
Whewwwww.....you just went way over my head Greg.....Wish I hadnt asked.  
 [smiley=hysterical.gif]
« Last Edit: August 22, 2005, 05:02:43 AM by admin »
Jerry

Offline C. Perry Rapier

  • Regular member
  • *
  • Posts: 26150
  • Karma: +0/-0
Re: De-chroming a Skillet
« Reply #27 on: August 21, 2005, 10:27:00 PM »
Jerry, I agree with you, and anyway you look at it, it's too many moles, just too many.

Offline Greg Stahl

  • Administrator
  • Regular member
  • *****
  • Posts: 14493
  • Karma: +3/-0
  • Ole Scratch
Re: De-chroming a Skillet
« Reply #28 on: August 22, 2005, 05:04:17 AM »
LOL.  Just things I have to deal with on a daily basis in my job.  

It is sort of like the old saying, "which weighs more a ton of feathers or a ton of bricks?"


"NO MORE MISTER NICE GUY!!" Alice Cooper.

Offline C. Perry Rapier

  • Regular member
  • *
  • Posts: 26150
  • Karma: +0/-0
Re: De-chroming a Skillet
« Reply #29 on: August 22, 2005, 06:48:37 AM »
Quote
LOL.  Just things I have to deal with on a daily basis in my job.  

It is sort of like the old saying, "which weighs more a ton of feathers or a ton of bricks?"



Well Greg, I'm glad we got a dedicated man like you on the job. But, you gotta admit, this Avogadro fellow, now he sure is a patient man to have counted all them moles. And now, you just have to take his word for it and don't have to do all that mole countin, cause he's "been there and done that".

Offline Jerry Cermack

  • Regular member
  • *
  • Posts: 6014
  • Karma: +0/-0
  • Collector
Re: De-chroming a Skillet
« Reply #30 on: August 22, 2005, 09:43:14 PM »
Quote
LOL.  Just things I have to deal with on a daily basis in my job.  
Well, while you are counting the moles daily, I wish y'all would come up with a cure for A Fib!........ ;D
Jerry

Fusion_power

  • Guest
Re: De-chroming a Skillet
« Reply #31 on: August 23, 2005, 10:42:19 AM »
I got a kick out of the "moles".

I think the problem with the stripping with battery acid was that the current was too low.  This made it a slow process which caused the pitting.   Commercial battery acid in a ratio of about 20 to 1 would be approximately correct for the stated amperage.  This would be about 1 quart of acid to 5 gallons of water.  The most important point made is that chrome requires different methods than nickel.

As a parent who has recently struggled through high school chemistry with a not-too-comprehending daughter, I got my fill of molarity and molality as well as covalent, ionic, and hydrogen bonds.  


Offline Jerry Cermack

  • Regular member
  • *
  • Posts: 6014
  • Karma: +0/-0
  • Collector
Re: De-chroming a Skillet
« Reply #32 on: August 23, 2005, 11:05:11 AM »
I've posted this URL before for anyone that might be interested in de-plating  or plating.  I've talked to these folks some time agon and they are quite helpful with information.

http://www.caswellplating.com/kits/index.html

On that page, they have a Plating Tutorial which is interesting info.
« Last Edit: August 23, 2005, 12:05:54 PM by Jerry_Cermack »
Jerry

Offline Al Andrews

  • WAGS member
  • Regular member
  • *****
  • Posts: 804
  • Karma: +0/-0
  • WAGS: The heartbeat of cast iron collecting!
Re: De-chroming a Skillet
« Reply #33 on: August 24, 2005, 10:28:59 AM »
Jerry, these are the people I got my deplating instruction from.

Al

Offline Jerry Cermack

  • Regular member
  • *
  • Posts: 6014
  • Karma: +0/-0
  • Collector
Re: De-chroming a Skillet
« Reply #34 on: August 24, 2005, 01:33:30 PM »
Quote
Jerry, these are the people I got my deplating instruction from.

Al

I noticed in the tutorial they mention controlling the amount of power going to the Anode for plating?  I wonder if that holds true for De-Plating?
Jerry