Aeblskiver with screw handle.

[Mike Bohannon]

About a month ago there was a aeblskiver with a screw attached handle (1314.A) on Ebay it was discussed on a thread here.  I was the winner,  took 4+ weeks to recieve.  There were some that thought it was a Wagner and some had some questions.  I have cleaned and seasoned pan.  If anyone has any questions I will be glad to measure, check or inspect as needed.  I will try to attach pics.  Haven't added pics here yet so will have to figure it out.

[Mike Bohannon]

Pic of bottom.

[Steve_Stephens]

Mike,
Your pan is shown in the 1924 Wagner catalog on p.68 as a Danish Cake Pan "Style 2" and catalog #1314.

Steve

[Tom Neitzel]

Mike, those are great pictures and a very nice pan.  I grabbed an old picture of my 1314 with the cast handle and cropped it to be similar to your close 1314A picture, grabbed your picture and pasted them together so we could see them at the same time.  Mine's on top, yours below.

I can't tell from you picture, are the numbers raised or incised?  They are incised on mine.  The serifs do seem different on the numeral 1.

And Steve, does the 1924 catalog talk mention the handle being one piece or two, or is it illustrated?

Tom

[Steve_Stephens]

Tom, the Wagner catalog illustrates the bolted on handle.  Interesting photo you made up.  Which handle do you think is earlier?  I'd pick the bolted on handle and would say that the solid one was made for only a very short time due to handle breakage right after casting.  Since Wagner started using catalog numbers only about 1923-24 your solid one would have to be from those dates since the bolted one is in the 1924 catalog No.30.  I would say the print on the bolted handle pan is of a later style than on your pan.  Anyone else have any quesses or better on the older of the two pans?

More:  Just looked in the SIDNEY catalog No. Twenty reprint we got through Greg & WAGS and it shows the bolted handle egg poacher (same pan) but that pan would not have the catalog number on it.  So it seems that the bolted handle pan may in fact be the earlier.  Bolted handle pan also shown in the 1927 Wagner catalog.  This could be a case of the pan changing but they used the old illustration in subsequent catalogs.  

Steve

[Tom Neitzel]

Thanks Steve, I see I have to send off a check for that Wagner reprint.

I don't know that the 1314 I have is Wagner.  I would only think it is based on the color of the iron and casting quality being essentially the same as my marked 1312.  Brian V mentioned he had a 1314.  I'd be curious to know if it is bolted or solid.

Based on the old catalog illustrations you cite I would only think that the solid handle would have been later.  I would guess it would have been done in an effort to reduce labor cost - no need to clean up the holes, put the pieces together, and pay for and tighten the bolt.  One other thought is that it may have been cheaper to package the pan without the handle attached and let the retailer bolt them together.  The solid handle itself does not strike me as particularly fragile.

It just drives me nuts at the lack of any further markings.  Wagner normally is pretty proud of their name.

It makes me think of an Alfred Andresen pan I've been looking for for a long time.  It is like a skiver pan, but has hearts around the outside with a star in the middle.  I'ts in his catalog.  I've seen some old ones but never one with markings of any kind.  Everything else of Andresen's is marked, even basic AA&Co on the early pans.  I keep looking because I can't believe he would have sold something unmarked.

tom

[Steve_Stephens]

Tom, I have that heart/star pan you are talking about and it's an old one.  I think Joel says some are bottom gated but I don't think I have seen any.  Many newer repros of that heart star aebleskiver pan and it's very hard to tell an old one from the repros unless you have the two side by side or, in the case of mine, it has lots of old patina and is fire pitted on the bottom.

The 1314 pans all have to be WAGNER if nicely cast.  They aren't Griswold and so few other companies used numbers on their pans and the 1314 matches the Wagner catalog number plus the pans are shown in their catalogs.   I don't know if any of the Wager 1314 pans are marked with their name.

Steve

[Harry Riva]

Any opinions on why the early 1314 pans were cast in two pieces and bolted together? A problem with handles snapping off? It would seem the two piece process would be more time intensive and be more expensive?
Harry

[Brian Vick]

Tom,
My 1314 is bolted also...Wagner just put letters on many of their  
early muffin pans.
The other Brian

[Mike Bohannon]

Tom- the letters on mine are incised.  I'm a rookie so can't add anything to the info, but let me know if I can provide any additional information.  Mike

[moosejaw]

Nice pics and nice pan.....I haven't seen a Wagner with a bolt on handle.  Annie will take it off your hands if you tire of it.   ;D