I finally broke down and started asking people if the had and Wagner Ware aluminum. If they have it you run a 50/50 shot of either: I have this roaster but aluminum isn't worth anything so how about $15 the money is in cast iron: or Yeah I got this old Wagner spoon and they are really really rare. This is the only one that I have ever had and I need $100 for it (at which time I say something like "Does it come with your kitchen" and they give me a stupid look ;D.