Albert, thats exactly like one of the ones I have. I find it strange that these have a #8 on the underside of the handle. Also these have 23 holes on the upper side and 10 holes on the bottom side above the handle. I also have the Skinner type which like the normal #869 type has 21 holes on the upper and 8 holes on the bottom above the handle. I believe that you are correct in that there are 5 different ones. There are to the best of my knowledge the marked 869, The un marked 869, the Skinner, the reinforced handled, and this one with the number 8 under the handle which is unmarked 869.