Wagner Krusty Korn Kob... need info.

[Wally1]

I found a Wagner Ware Krusty Korn Kobs at a yard sale and want to find it's approx age and if it's rare. It's the larger 15" version, and on the back top it says: Trade Mark, Krusty Kron Kobs in regular type. On center kob it says Wager Ware, Sidney, -o-. On next (5th) kob has an open center cross. 6th kob says: Pat. Pending

[Wally1]

Okay, you see I'm a newbie... I misspelled Wagner on my very first post.  :-X

[Greg Stahl]

Okay, you see I'm a newbie... I misspelled Wagner on my very first post.  :-X

Doug,
One of the best things about this Forum is that you can modify your own posts.  Just go to your post and click MODIFY.  I changed it for you.

I'm not that familar with these but if you have the SENIOR size which it sounds like by the size, then the book value is $50 (The Book of Griswold and Wagner).  However their are different variations of these and you have an earlier version, as it states "Pat. Pending" and doesn't have the patent date.

IMO, the value is likely more than $50, as I've not seen many of the Senior pans, let alone one with "PAT. PENDING."

BTW,  [smiley=welcome.gif] to the WAGS Forum.  This is THE place to learn about cast iron.  We have a unique collection of experts on many different items, so I'm sure someone else will come back and give you more info.

[C. Perry Rapier]

Hello Doug, there are two types of the senior Krusty Korn Kobs. One has a picture of ears of corn on it and one does not. The senior that you have, which from what you have stated is the one without the ears of corn, is listed 75 to 100 dollars in the book. Book value means in excellent conditon. The one you have is 1/2 inch narrower than the other one, which is book value of 50.00. This information comes straight from the book of Griswold and Wagner by David Smith and Chuck Wafford. It is an excellent source for cast iron and you might want to seriously consider getting it if you like cast iron. Welcome to the forum. We are a fun group that likes to share information and help when we can. At some point you may want to join our organization. Dues are cheap and provides many benefits such as a newsletter, access to other parts of this forum which provides additional interesting information on cast iron, and being a member also entitles you to attend our annual convention, which this year is going to be in the great state of Tennessee. Take care and thanks for checking us out. Oh yea lastly, I have one just like yours and It makes excellent corn bread.

[Steve_Stephens]

The one you have is 1/2 inch narrower than the other one...   This information comes straight from the book of Griswold and Wagner by David Smith and Chuck Wafford.

Doug and Perry,
I do see on p.262 of the blue book where it gives widths of the two senior sized corn pans as 6-3/8 and 6-7/8.  I've had both the plain "W" writing version and the later "Corn W" writing and don't remember any size difference between them.  I think the book may have one dimension in error.  Can anyone confirm that?

Or could it be the very early one with the plain tab handles is a bit narrower.   I've seen them (mostly unmarked) but don't think I had one as mine had the rounded handles with hole and still with the plain "W" writing.  These are nice pans but I feel the book prices may be a little high, especially for $100.  $50 isn't too much at all or even a bit more.

Steve

[Carol]

Doug and Perry,
I do see on p.262 of the blue book where it gives widths of the two senior sized corn pans as 6-3/8 and 6-7/8.  I've had both the plain "W" writing version and the later "Corn W" writing and don't remember any size difference between them.  I think the book may have one dimension in error.  Can anyone confirm that?

Or could it be the very early one with the plain tab handles is a bit narrower.   I've seen them (mostly unmarked) but don't think I had one as mine had the rounded handles with hole and still with the plain "W" writing.  These are nice pans but I feel the book prices may be a little high, especially for $100.  $50 isn't too much at all or even a bit more.

Steve

Steve, I was reading my brand new, highly cherished, can't-live-without-them three reference books you recommended, and Smith makes mention of earlier pans not having hang holes, but that consumers were starting to drill them themselves so they could hang them on their walls.  Talking about muffin/gem/bread pans.  Is the hole possibly a home-drilled variety?

[Steve_Stephens]

Holly,
No, your not going to catch me again on that one Carol.
The Wagener KKK pans that have holes have real, cast-in holes.  Occasionally one will find a muffin type pan or even some other types of pieces with home drilled holes for hanging.  Often the hole(s) will be drilled slightly off center which is an easy givaway.  But sometimes you just don't know if the hole is original cast-in or drilled by someone.  When suspected you should always ask as holes will reduce value very substantially to many collectors.  I pretty much will not buy a drilled or modified piece.  I'm not sure that too many original owners actually hung their pans but they might have.  Some later owners thought nothing of busting through the casting to make a hole to hang by.  

Steve

[Carol]

Holly,
No, your not going to catch me again on that one Carol.
The Wagener KKK pans that have holes have real, cast-in holes.  Occasionally one will find a muffin type pan or even some other types of pieces with home drilled holes for hanging.  Often the hole(s) will be drilled slightly off center which is an easy givaway.  But sometimes you just don't know if the hole is original cast-in or drilled by someone.  When suspected you should always ask as holes will reduce value very substantially to many collectors.  I pretty much will not buy a drilled or modified piece.  I'm not sure that too many original owners actually hung their pans but they might have.  Some later owners thought nothing of busting through the casting to make a hole to hang by.  

Steve

Except I did!  ROFLMAO.  The preceding post was made by Carol, not Holly.  

[Steve_Stephens]

I know Carol, I was just kidding you.
S.

[Carol]

Nahhhhhhh.

[C. Perry Rapier]

John, I hear what you are saying. I was going by the markings as indicated by the book and the patent pending as pictured in the book. The ones at the bottom have the patent date and book for less money. The ones at the top, with "Pat. Pending" list for 75 to 100.00 and do not differentiate between rounded off tabs and squared off tabs. So the way that I understand it, based on what is in the book, the person making the inquiry has the one on the top, based upon their description. So I do not see that the price I quoted is for the squared off handles and not the rounded off handles. What am I missing if this is not as you see it?

[C. Perry Rapier]

John, thanks for sharing your opinion. Since the book does not differentiate between the two I would say the price would be more like whatever you can get, since the book does not make it exactly clear, although from the pictures it does certainly indicate the square tab with not hole. Also, I measured one that I have, the Pat. Pending, with the same markings as in the book, but with the rounded tabs and hole in the tab, and it measures 6 7/8 inches, just like the book says. Although on my ruler it said 7 inches, but what the hey.

[Wally1]

 :D Glad to get such good info. The pan is of the rounded handle variety. with holes. I really have to get that book. I hear the 4th edition is coming out in May so I'll get it. I have the pan on Ebay right now, so if anyone wants to see it and have a closer look it's there.

Also, looking for people in the Orange Co., CA area into dutch oven cooking. I am wanting to learn the art of dutch oven cooking and figure it's better to find people who do it well already. I have a couple cook books, but people are more fun.

[C. Perry Rapier]

Doug, If you want people on this forum to see your pan you can post a link of the auction right here and all we have to do is click on the link and we can go straight to it.

[NJKane]

Hello Doug and welcome! What is the URL for your Ebay auction?
FYI, you can copy and paste it right here in the message box..
TGIF!
Liz