C S & T sauce pan

[JR Doffin]

I picked up a sauce pan  marked  C S & T inside of an oval,on the side with a tin handle rivited on and flat bottom its not on foundry list . Thought it might be English but page 71 in the blue book has an ERIE just like it.  any ideas on who made it?

[JR Doffin]

another photo

[moosejaw]

That is one interesting piece, J.R.!  

[C. B. Williams]

Is that a side gatemark?

[Greg Stahl]

I have a couple of pans like this that were made by Savery & Co., but I've not seen those markings before on your piece

[Steve_Stephens]

Not sure but I think it may be English JR.  I've seen some similiar pots with a tin cover that had a brass tag soldered to the lid.  Seems a lot of foundries made this style of bellied saucepan.

Steve

[JR Doffin]

C.B. , I can't tell where the gate was. The bottom is pitted and may have erased the gate. The middle has what looks like a mold seem all the way around and ground smooth, so the gate may have been in the middle.

Steve, would an English made pot  be marked in quarts?

                       JR

[moosejaw]

J.R.,

If it is marked quarts, then I'd say the English heritage is out the window.  This piece may not be gated.  The seam you are referring to around the middle is just like my Alabama Pipe Co. bean pot.  It's not a gate.

This is probably a late 1800's early 1900's piece.  I think it is really nice, J.R.  I'm just a wee bit jealous.  

[JR Doffin]

Marty, it is marked C S & T   4 QTs  . I'll just let you be jealous and not tell you the bottom has a crack ::)        And I found it in the land of Lincoln   ( closer to you than me)          JR

[moosejaw]

I'm sure glad someone is finding cast iron in Illinois!  Cuz I ain't!  I do feel better that it has a crack......if you want to sell it, I can put it in between my cracked Gris DO and my cracked Pocasset!   ;D

[Greg Stahl]

Guess  I need to get the camera out and take some pix of the Savery & Co pot that looks just like this one.  Does the fact that it is marked 4 QT, really mean you can rule out England?  Did n't they use those measurements back in the 19th century, when this pot was likely made?

[moosejaw]

Oh #&*@.......must have left my brain in aebleskiver land.  Great Britain has still not gone fully metric and this piece most certainly would have been made long before there was even any discussion about metric.   [smiley=banghead.gif]

So this could be English.  

[Steve_Stephens]

Steve, would an English made pot  be marked in quarts?

                      

As far as I know, yes.  At least from that early period.  The way the pot has a larger midsection would mean that the mold would have to be parted at the largest diameter in the center of the pot so that's why the mold line or what may look like a gate mark.  Also, I guess it COULD be gated at that point but not ALL the way around.
Steve