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Charlee

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Info on trivets
« on: February 27, 2009, 02:46:23 PM »
I got this info from the trivet collectors board on ebay...

Quick Ways to Differentiate a Repro from a Genuine Antique:

1. Check the reverse. If the name of the manufacturer appears the trivet is a reproduction. For example: John Wright, JZH, Wilton, Emig, Dalecraft, Virginia Metalcrafters ... all mid 2oth Century trivets. (note from Charlee:  I would also add Griswold, Wagner, and Lodge to this list)

If there are only letters or numbers on the reverse, it could indicate either a mid 20th Century trivet or an older, vintage casting. In the book Trivets & Stands Ellwood states that Light Egyptian letters/numbers were occasionally used between the late nineteenth century and WWII.
Light Egyptian Font

2. Rubber caps on the feet? REPRO! These caps were first seen on trivets in the 1950s.

3. Heavily reproduced design? BEWARE! It is most probably a repro, either 1950s or earlier.

4. If the leg length is >1.25" it's most probably an older or antique trivet. The 1950s repros were made with shorter legs for wall and tabletop display. Older trivets had higher legs to protect the table surface from the heat of either the sad iron or hot pot.

I also look for evidence of grinding wheel marks along the edges where the gate marks should be. These will be fine vertical lines at fairly even spacings. Grinding wheels weren't introduced until after 1895 according to Trivets & Stands.

And if the grinding marks are irregular, then they were from a hand file, predating 1895

You have to learn to recognize the metal. The old Iron has a different look because of its metals content.  (Nuther Charlee note:  Old iron will rust "brown" (think rusty old bridge) while newer iron will have the more orange rust.)

(Yet another "Charlee note") British trivets can be dated by the RD number on the back.    I have a Carron turtle trivet that I can tell you the DAY it was made, because of the RD diamond on the back....


Offline Tom Neitzel

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Re: Info on trivets
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2009, 06:36:54 PM »
Neat stuff.  Is the RD marking similar to the Registration Diamond on British pottery.  I believe it also indicates the day and year from what I've seen on the antiques roadshow (the British one).  If I remember right it also serves like a patent.  Nobody else can produce that design.


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mississippi_slim

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Re: Info on trivets
« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2009, 07:08:38 PM »
charlee i would think the grinding wheel was in use at least 100 years before 1895..i do know the peddle type wheels was before that and before that some smith shops that had a water powered griss mill also had water powered grinding wheels....

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« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2009, 08:06:47 PM »
I bet that date for grinding wheels is for wheels made with hard, synthetic materials run at high speed, rather than natural sandstone or emery.

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Charlee

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Re: Info on trivets
« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2009, 10:26:55 AM »
I didn't write the notes above, other than the remarks that I called "Charlee note".   I couldn't even begin to argue the grinding wheel issue, because I believe that they were  around before 1895... ;)  

The RD Registry that is used in Great Britain is an exceptionally neat system, and I love that they use it!   Here's a link that explains the diamond mark, and also gives a chart for the RD numbers, which is a different system than the diamond.

http://www.925-1000.com/registry.html

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« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2009, 10:42:18 AM »
charlee i wasnt saying that you was wrong ..maybe it was like tom said ..the grinding wheel as we know it today..when i was 18 i went to make my fortune in north aurora ill..i worked for D.R Sperry filter press..at a earlier date they made a lot of different cast iron stuff..but they was located by the side of the fox river..makes me wonder how many of these old foundries had water power before electric..i have saw a few of the old grinding wheels with the date chiseled in them..way before the 1895 date...jimmy