Cherry Shellac

[John Knapp]

Does anyone know where I can obtain Cherry Shellac???   I need this to restore a Griswold Food Chopper Display Stand.  Some clown painted over the original finish with a tan paint.
Thanks, John

[miniwoodworker]

Try this link.

http://woodworker.com/cgi-bin/search.exe?BP=1 If it doesn't work, look up item #130-283

"25% solids cut, blonde shellac can be tinted with a wide range of water soluble aniline dyes or universal pigments"

If this isn't what you have in mind, try a search for shellac to see if they have anything else that's closer.

BTW, this is a good company for things - "woodworking".

Lee

[C. B. Williams]

John: Are you sure it's cherry, and not mohogany, which is the more available. C. B.  In either case, Woodworkers Supply, or, Highland Hardware in Atlanta.
http://www.tools-for-woodworking.com/index.asp
you may have to get clear shellac and tint it to your particular color. Both the shellac and the dyes are available at highland.

[John Knapp]

C.B.  From what I have found out they used cherry shellac on these display stands,  I tried removing some of the paint and some of the original finish came with it also.  that's why I figure i will strip it down and start from scratch.  I have tried specialty paint stores and they look at me like I have 3 heads.  I will try the links and websites you and Lee provided.
John

[C. B. Williams]

John: Highland not only offers a very good line of products, but real knowledgable people you can talk to. Please tell me where you got the information that it was cherry shellac. Not doubting you, just interested. I have never heard of it, and is it referring to a color shade? If so, it is obviously a red tint. Next, what species of wood is the stand? I assume mahogany. I would really love to have one of these stands, as I have a good collection of the grinders. Can you give any pics? thanks.  

[John Knapp]

C.B.  I got the same answer from Joe Noto and also from Dave Smith, this was 2-3 years ago.  The wood  is not mahogany, it is kind of soft and light, I tend to think this one it is pine or poplar.  Griswold used whatever they had on hand when making wooden pieces...example, I have one coffee grinder that is oak the rest of them are pine or some other light wood.  I haven't had the need to refinish a coffe grinder as all of mine are in nice shape with the original paints.
John

[John Knapp]

I will take some pics when the piece is completed.  I have a fairly good reason to believe cherry shellac did exist...  I asked an old timer that is refinisher in Pa. and he said he has not seen cherry shellac in 30+ years, so I tend to think it did exist at one time.

[Jerry Cermack]

I've never heard of Cherry Shellac but shellac does some in natural colors from pale to dark reddish brown.  I've used it for years but not on grinder stands..... ;D

PS....If I've needed a certain color with shellac other than the normal colors, I use a colorant to tint it.

[John Knapp]

It looks like I am gonna have to tint it, or go for a Minwax stain and seal to it with poly, but I really don't want to do that.

[miniwoodworker]

John, I suspect that the "cherry shellac" the old timer mentioned was probably someones product that was available already tinted. Since the Minwax and poly type products came along there isn't as much demand for the more traditional finishing products.

Much like glue. At one time, hide glue was probably on the shelves of most hardware type stores. Now it's a special order item.  :(

Lee

[Jerry Cermack]

John, Jeff Jewitt's website has some color sample of shellacs. The darkest he shows is

DEWAXED DARK GARNET SHELLAC

The darkest shellac we sell, it has a cool, bronze undertone. Many finishers apply one or two sealer coats of this grade for "instant" aged cherry. The cool undertone kills unwanted pinkish colors as found in red oak and some mahogany species. On white oak it produces a light fumed oak color (ammonia fuming).

http://www.homesteadfinishing.com/htdocs/shellac3.htm

I've seen some that I think was darker, but most furniture folks, that use shellac like I do as primarily a sealer coat, doesn't bother keeping different colors or shades of shellac on hand.

[Preston Edwards]

Were the food chopper stands a pale green color, or am I thinking of something else? Could a person just paint it a green color or is that a no-no?

Preston

[John Knapp]

The metal food chopper stand is a pale green.  The one I am talking about is the food chopper display stand that was sold to or given to stores that took the food choppers. This display stand is wood and metal (jappanned) and turns like a lazy susan.
John

[Jerry Cermack]

This display stand is wood and metal (jappanned) and turns like a lazy susan.
John

Has anyone ever heard of a revolving stand with slots made for different size Griswold dampers that was a factory stand?

[John Knapp]

Never heard of a damper display stand Jerry.