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Offline Mark Zizzi

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Re: Electrolysis setup question
« Reply #60 on: January 27, 2014, 01:21:36 PM »
The lid as I got it ...and finished and seasoned.

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Re: Electrolysis setup question
« Reply #61 on: January 27, 2014, 01:23:44 PM »
The bottom as I got it...and finished and seasoned

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Re: Electrolysis setup question
« Reply #62 on: January 27, 2014, 01:28:09 PM »
Finally.... ready for my pot roast!   :) ;)
Sorry about pic quality...all I had was my phone.

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Re: Electrolysis setup question
« Reply #63 on: January 27, 2014, 01:37:07 PM »
Looks like you did just fine, Mark.    :)

How long was the oven in the electro tank?

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Re: Electrolysis setup question
« Reply #64 on: January 27, 2014, 01:45:39 PM »
Thanks Ken. I did the lid and base seperately..about 24 hours each.

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Re: Electrolysis setup question
« Reply #65 on: January 28, 2014, 09:57:05 AM »
I think Cheryl must've fainted..  (tap tap tap)... ;D

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Re: Electrolysis setup question
« Reply #66 on: January 28, 2014, 10:56:25 AM »
Nah... Cheryl's frozen, like in, abominable snowman style... :D

I was waiting for pictures of the pot roast...  ;D

It turned out great!

Isn't electrolysis super?




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Re: Electrolysis setup question
« Reply #67 on: January 28, 2014, 11:53:17 AM »
Yes it is...thanks for all your help and advice. ;)  Definitely a learning experience.   Yeah, first I have to go buy a roast and so frigid I don't feel like venturing out. But I will..waiting for it to get above 5 F.

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Re: Electrolysis setup question
« Reply #68 on: January 28, 2014, 09:08:58 PM »
Not sure if this is the right place to post these...feel free to move them if it's not.
The reward for all the reading,work and injured thumb..best pot roast I ever made!... ;)

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Re: Electrolysis setup question
« Reply #69 on: January 28, 2014, 11:00:46 PM »
Mark, I don't always know the rules here, but for me, this was exactly the right place to post this. I've been following your DO journey from the start.

Seeing your journey go from weighing DO options ... to buying one ... to buying lye ... to jumping right in with electro ... to showing your final product, that was awesome. You did a great job cleaning that guy up!

But seeing that pot roast, well, that's real payoff! :)

Sounded like you were really looking for a good cooker, and that definitely looked like good cooking to me. Feel free to send any leftovers north. :)

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Re: Electrolysis setup question
« Reply #70 on: January 29, 2014, 09:12:21 AM »
Hi Karen...yep I remember you telling me on my very first day I had come to the right place for all things CI, and you sure were right. I want to thank you and Cheryl, Ken, Will, Tom, Randy, Russel, Jim, Stuart, Mike, and all the others who have been so helpful along the way to that pot roast. Thanks for putting up with my many, many posts and questions.  I couldn't have done it without all your help...and I do plan on applying for membership later today. :) ;)
 Next up...cornbread!  ;D ::)
Oh, and I'll gladly send you some pot roast on the wind if you call your wayward polar vortex back home. :P ;)

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Re: Electrolysis setup question
« Reply #71 on: January 29, 2014, 11:31:01 AM »
Delicious looking meal, Mark. And by coincidence, I made something very similar looking last night ... a venison stew ... in my Lodge covered chicken fryer. Wish I'd taken pictures so you could see how alike yours and mine were.

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Re: Electrolysis setup question
« Reply #72 on: January 29, 2014, 11:58:55 AM »
Thanks Ken. MMMmmmmmmm...venison stew. I've been making mine in a crock pot...not any more!  And you're right, meat, veggies and gravy..very similar.  8-)

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Re: Electrolysis setup question
« Reply #73 on: January 29, 2014, 07:14:52 PM »
Oops, sorry Karen, forgot you are in Rochester..for some reason I thought you were in Canada when you said send some North.  ;)

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Re: Electrolysis setup question
« Reply #74 on: January 29, 2014, 11:41:47 PM »
Not quite Canada, but pretty close! I just meant north of you ... this polar vortex belongs to someone far north of me!

But I'll still grab that pot roast off the wind as the vortex heads home. :)

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Re: Electrolysis setup question
« Reply #75 on: February 23, 2014, 02:59:37 AM »
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the prevailing thought process here is to use stainless steel as the anode in the electrolysis tanks, but from my research, SS that goes through electrolysis releases hexavalent chromium which is extremely toxic and a known carcinogen.

Am I reading this correctly, or did I miss something?

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Re: Electrolysis setup question
« Reply #76 on: February 23, 2014, 05:54:52 AM »
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but the prevailing thought process here is to use stainless steel as the anode in the electrolysis tanks, but from my research, SS that goes through electrolysis releases hexavalent chromium which is extremely toxic and a known carcinogen.

Am I reading this correctly, or did I miss something?

Hi Jonathon,

Welcome to WAGS!

    I remember one WAGS member, who was attending university, and he asked his chem professor about this. The prof laughed at him. If you want to make hexavalent chromium you will need the stainless steel to be molten, or better yet, vaporized.
Hexavalent chromium is a real issue for those processes that involve very high energy usage, such as welding or in atomic reactors. When you are talking about 12 volts, and not enough heat to even boil water, it becomes a non-issue.
  The type of electrolysis setup used to clean iron is very very different from an electrolysis setup used to chrome plate metal objects. The chemicals used, along with the amount of electricity are huge factors.

  Our webmaster is a Harvard based research scientist in the field of medicine, and has conducted tests for the presence of hexavalent chromium in his electro setup, and it came back negative.

  I'm not sure what you mean by "your research". Have you conducted any chemical testing? Are you a scientist? If you have any new information regarding this topic, from your own personal experience, I for one would like to see it. We have all seen those websites that you have probably been looking at.

  Please be aware that if you rely on whatever info you find on Google, that you can always find information supporting both sides of any issue. Did you know that just owning a dog increases your chance of having cancer? :o :o :o

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-490581/Can-dogs-breast-cancer-Bizarre-medical-theories-experts-claim-actually-true.html

  If you are concerned about the use of stainless steel for this application, you can always just use regular steel. You will have to clean and or replace it more often, but it will work. It comes down to personal choice. If you are not comfortable with any risks with stainless steel use, or dog ownership, then you should act accordingly.

Chris
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Re: Electrolysis setup question
« Reply #77 on: February 23, 2014, 12:45:37 PM »
Great info, Chris, thanks for the lesson!

I'm currently using steel rebar but may move over to the stainless with this new info.

Thanks again

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Re: Electrolysis setup question
« Reply #78 on: February 23, 2014, 02:23:53 PM »
Jonathan, welcome!
I think that you will find that using steel, or stainless steel, sheet or plate will work much better in the electro than rebar.

I found that my goal was to have the surface of the anode material :

1. Larger surface (width and depth) than the item(s) being cleaned

2. Solid surface (to avoid shadowing) - as opposed to mesh or steel grid

and a battery charger (manual) with a 20 amp setting.   :)


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Re: Electrolysis setup question
« Reply #79 on: February 23, 2014, 10:24:16 PM »
Yes, welcome Jonathon. I'm fairly new here too. It's answers like what Chris and Cheryl and so many others here willingly  provide...well it's just quickly obvious that this is where you want to be if you have an interest in cast iron...and good people! ;)