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Offline Wes Auman

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Electro set up Question
« on: November 01, 2014, 10:58:04 AM »
Getting ready to set up one of two electros. I have a large stainless container that sticks out of the tub I want to use to contain any spills. Is it going to be an issue with the anode not necessarily having water on the outside? It is watertight. Has anyone set one up like this? I know it's Saturday and everyone is busy hunting iron but, if I could get some tips I would appreciate it as I am anxious to get started. Thanks All  Wes
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Re: Electro set up Question
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2014, 01:33:23 PM »
Wes, a Picture(s) would be very helpful.

If I understand correctly, you will have water filling it on the inside?
Just not on the outside, as the SS is actually a watertight container itself.. ? <at least for now> :)

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Re: Electro set up Question
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2014, 02:35:09 PM »
Electro set up so far! I hope the pic is sized right.
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Re: Electro set up Question
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2014, 02:36:02 PM »
There is a No.10 skillet in there!
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Re: Electro set up Question
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2014, 02:44:54 PM »
Wes, you can make your pics 640 x 800, or 800 x 600... so go a bit bigger. :)

Yes, water on the inside of the SS container is all that is needed.

Looks like it is working for you!!

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Re: Electro set up Question
« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2014, 02:53:48 PM »
Any pointers or suggestions? I have since removed the copper clamps as they were not doing anything. May be needed in some application but not yet.
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Re: Electro set up Question
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2014, 02:54:40 PM »
How long on average does it need to "cook"?
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Re: Electro set up Question
« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2014, 02:58:49 PM »
Depends on condition of the piece, and how many amps you are using.  20 Amp setting will do a bit quicker than 10 Amps.... could be 4 to 24 hours depending on variables...including whether stripped in the lye bath first.

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Re: Electro set up Question
« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2014, 04:56:54 PM »
Wes, I'll second Cheryl's comments on using 20 amps for 4-24hrs. It really depends on getting the organics off first in lye. Clean pans will zap faster than rusty ones too. You might also want to use an infrared laser temp gauge on various pieces and connections just to see if you are getting any heat build up - especially if you want to run 24hrs on a new system setup.

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Re: Electro set up Question
« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2014, 11:30:41 AM »
Wes,
Cheryl is correct you don't need the pan underneath...UNTIL...
Depending on the quality of your stainless piece (there are different grades) like in my case the stainless tub lasted about a year and then developed pinholes and all my soda medium leaked out. I'm now looking for a plastic tub big enough to fit my stainless piece.
OB ;D

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Re: Electro set up Question
« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2014, 06:05:26 PM »
Do any of you mess with the piece during the process or do you just leave it alone? I find myself pulling the piece out and scrubbing. Am I wasting my time?
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Re: Electro set up Question
« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2014, 07:23:05 PM »
If I'm cleaning a piece that has some rust concerns on it, I'll check it after 4 hrs, and give it a light brushing.

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Re: Electro set up Question
« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2014, 10:47:57 PM »

Wes, depending on the connections... i.e. jumper connectors, hanger clamps, I will pull a piece every coupla/few hours and adjust/move the connector locations, so I don't get any shadowing or light spots or to rotate the piece (ie... a DO).
If it is an extremely rusted piece I may pull and do a light scrub down to remove the converted dark rust/carbon spots..you know, the watchmacallits............ :)

Now the above is using my 2 plate system...
Hopefully the new 360° will reduce the amount of fiddling around times. ::)

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Re: Electro set up Question
« Reply #13 on: November 02, 2014, 10:52:03 PM »
Brian... don't know the size or shape of your leaky SS, but check out Tractor supply and their various shaped feed and water thingys...
(livestock waterers and feeders)
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Re: Electro set up Question
« Reply #14 on: November 02, 2014, 11:51:49 PM »
Bought a new tub tonite, fresh load of warm water and carbonate. Have a gummed up lodge number 8 dutch oven in for the last 2 hours, pulled it out twice so far for a quick scrub. Another hour should be clean. The computer power supply is working like a charm.


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Re: Electro set up Question
« Reply #15 on: November 03, 2014, 12:46:01 PM »
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The computer power supply is working like a charm.

Hi Robert, Could you elaborate on your power supply setup? I have a couple of those kicking around. Thanks.

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Re: Electro set up Question
« Reply #16 on: November 03, 2014, 01:29:02 PM »
Surely can, going to post these from photobucket, haven't got my own laptop here at the moment...

If you electrocute yourself, please do not blame me, I shouldn't have to tell you that you're dealing with a good dose of amperage. Been using this setup for a while now without issue. Very simple to set up and get running. This is set up on the basis of electrolysis needing 12 Volts. 

Starting out, make sure you have a power supply that can put out some decent amperage. This is the one i'm using, 28 amps @ 12V.




You're going to need all of the yellow leads - just the plain yellow, some have a blue or green stripe - do not use. The more the merrier. This one had 6 yellow (12V) and a dozen black (GND). Strip all the 12V leads (yellow) and tie all of them together - you're going to want this to handle the extra amperage. One lead will probably work, but will blow the unit or melt. Strip the same number or better of black (GND) and tie them together. There should be a green lead, this is your power switch - tie it to a black to short it. Cut the rest of the leads that you're not using off - or tie them out of the way. I've soldered the leads after twisting them together.



Red to Yellow, black to black on the hookup of course.

This is my little tank, will handle any of the pieces I've been buying. Using a large piece of iron for an anode, works really well. It's cleaning a number 8 lodge dutch oven.



Hook up your anode and cathode, be sure they aren't too close of course, turn on the switch and plug it in - watch for activity - no activity, check your connections. This power supply i'm using will beep and shut down if the connections are too close or shorting, not sure what you're using.


Edit: Sorry about the thread hijack. Mods, if you want to move it to a new thread, go for it.
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Re: Electro set up Question
« Reply #17 on: November 03, 2014, 05:19:29 PM »
Got it, thank you for your time and trouble. . Wow, that is really bubbling away nicely.  8-)

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Re: Electro set up Question
« Reply #18 on: November 03, 2014, 06:37:06 PM »
Welcome. any questions, post back. It's a cheap setup  8-)
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Re: Electro set up Question
« Reply #19 on: November 03, 2014, 10:09:00 PM »
Don't move the tech talk on my account. I am happy to learn anything I can.
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