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Offline Roger Barfield

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gated dutch oven marked MT
« on: February 01, 2005, 11:51:38 PM »
This dutch oven has a raised MT and number 8 with a gate mark, has anyone seen one like it before?
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Re: gated dutch oven marked MT
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2005, 11:52:18 PM »
The lid has a really cool basting pattern.  
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Re: gated dutch oven marked MT
« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2005, 11:57:42 PM »
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This dutch oven has a raised MT and number 8 with a gate mark, has anyone seen one like it before?

Maybe but not sure and don't know the maker.  There was a photo of that basting pattern on ebay or here a while ago.  Pretty interesting.
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Re: gated dutch oven marked MT
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2005, 12:14:41 AM »
I obviously haven't cleaned it yet, but it is very well cast.  This is the first dutch oven I've seen with a gate mark.  I'm sure there are others.
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Re: gated dutch oven marked MT
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2005, 01:35:59 AM »
Wow!  That is cool, Roger!  Nice Buy!  Where did you get it?  MT stands for Montana.  LOL!
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Re: gated dutch oven marked MT
« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2005, 11:58:22 AM »
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Where did you get it?


Ebay purchase, they said the gate mark was a repair.   I took a chance on it because I was going to make it a user.   I didn't know the lid looked like that until I got it.
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Troy_Hockensmith

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Re: gated dutch oven marked MT
« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2005, 12:10:34 PM »
We've discussed that lid on here before and the ID was never determined.

Oh and I don't think it had a gate. Seems both pieces should if they go together.  
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Re: gated dutch oven marked MT
« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2005, 02:59:29 PM »
So you don't think this lid goes with this DO, Troy?  
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Re: gated dutch oven marked MT
« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2005, 05:41:41 PM »
I really don't know. I know I have seen that lid before. I don't remember it being with a gated oven. THe could be a match. I will see if I can dig something up in my notes. I'm swamped though. Gee I'm starting to sound like Greg. Seems my time here is in drive bys.  
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Re: gated dutch oven marked MT
« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2005, 05:46:34 PM »
Yes I too think it is a marriage.   I remember this lid being on a 50's something bottom.   It is not Renfroware?   What was this lid on???


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Offline Roger Barfield

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Re: gated dutch oven marked MT
« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2005, 12:04:30 AM »
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Yes I too think it is a marriage


I hadn't considered that.  I guess I too often fall into the trap of believing what I see.  The seasoning matches and it fits tighltly, therefore it must be a an original pair, not.  Very possible it could be a marriage.  Oh well, I'll still make it a user.  It didn't cost much, and if nothing else, the lid looks cool.
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Troy_Hockensmith

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Re: gated dutch oven marked MT
« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2005, 06:51:42 PM »
Roger,
I don't know if they go together or not. I got to dig for notes and "might" be able to give you a comparison. They do look like they go together. Where is the gate on the lid? I assume it is on the side. If so why would the oven be on the bottom?
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Re: gated dutch oven marked MT
« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2005, 09:24:06 PM »
Oh man, I just don't know. I couldn't find the thread that originally talked about this and I think it was a link to e-bay so the pictures wouldn't have been there any way.

I know I saw some discussion on this before and sat down for some quality time with back issues of KNC. -Vol 7 No 6 from 1998 has a letter in the melting pot with pictures of this lid. Only the lid though so I can't tell you about the bottom.

I don't know if these two go together. I do remember seeing them before and while I didn't keep the pictures I did look at them pretty hard trying to figure out who made them. We never did but I really don't recall it having a gate mark. In fact I'm pretty sure it didn't but that is only my memory and it sometimes slips. Who's to say that one wasn't a marriage and yours isn't.  

I wouldn't worry about it much and if the lid fits well clean it up and use it. Regardless you don't see to many of these and it's cool just the same.  
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Re: gated dutch oven marked MT
« Reply #13 on: February 04, 2005, 02:17:32 AM »
Roger, I have seen a do like this, only the cover has a gate on the inside and no basting design. The owner can trace it back in his family to about 1904 near St Louis area. I'm sill trying to talk him out of it! ;D          JR
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Re: gated dutch oven marked MT
« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2005, 01:11:18 PM »
I associate that basting pattern with the Ozark/Cresent foundry out of St. Louis, MO.  A friend as a DO with that pattern on the lid, with the foundry info on the pot, if I recall correctly.
Cheers, Ellis
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Re: gated dutch oven marked MT
« Reply #15 on: February 05, 2005, 10:02:12 PM »
Ellis,
Is it gated?
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Offline Roger Barfield

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Re: gated dutch oven marked MT
« Reply #16 on: February 05, 2005, 10:50:12 PM »
I'm going to clean this tomorrow, so I can get a better look without all the seasoning/crud on it.  Thanks for all the information.
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Re: gated dutch oven marked MT
« Reply #17 on: February 06, 2005, 12:57:53 PM »
Troy,
I will check with the individual and post a reply as soon as I get an answer.
Cheers, EDM
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Re: gated dutch oven marked MT
« Reply #18 on: February 08, 2005, 01:28:26 PM »




Pix from Ellis, DO belongs to Steve Wagner
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Re: gated dutch oven marked MT
« Reply #19 on: February 08, 2005, 02:29:03 PM »
Could that pot and cover, above, be a marriage?  I have seen a small number of Crescent do's but don't remember that cover.  Possibly a later, basting cover?  Just don't know.
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