Author Topic: Flea Market Find today (Read 8936 times)

Rick Gilley · « **on:** March 23, 2010, 09:00:30 PM »

Went to our local flea market...there was a lot of common iron there which I passed on. I have a building full of it already. I found this little piece that was interesting. It is a I.A. Sheppard & Co. Balt No 1 small spider. It is about 6 inches across and about 6 inches tall I guess. I checked the foundry out on our foundry page and there is not a piece like this listed. So, if Sandy or Chris wants to grab these pictures for the foundry page, feel free to do so.

Mark Ritter · « **Reply #1 on:** March 23, 2010, 09:08:59 PM »

I like it, Rick!!! Nice find and thanks for the pictures. You did buy it, didn't you?

Jeff Seago · « **Reply #2 on:** March 23, 2010, 09:15:00 PM »

That is one neat piece Rick!!

Rick Gilley · « **Reply #3 on:** March 23, 2010, 09:15:44 PM »

yes.....$15.....tried to give him $10...wouldn't take it...so I walked away and actually got in my truck and left.....then came back just to buy it. And the seller next to him was running an auction...and I bought a nice old original .35 Coca Cola electric drink machine there...still had the bottle tabs in the opening chute..its the kind you open up a glass door to get the drinks out. But anyways after I loaded my Coke machine...I stopped and paid him the $15 for this piece after I offered $10 a second time.

Chris Stairs · « **Reply #4 on:** March 23, 2010, 09:21:49 PM »

Thanks Rick,
That will certainly make a nice addition to the foundry list. I have saved the pics, and they will be included in the next update. Nice find!

Roger Barfield · « **Reply #5 on:** March 23, 2010, 09:37:43 PM »

Very nice, that's the first one I've seen like it. :o

J. P. Vance · « **Reply #6 on:** March 24, 2010, 12:17:22 AM »

Very nice! I did a little research on I.A.Sheppard & Co. and came up with this New York Times clipping dated Sept. 10, 1914.

PHILADELPHIA, Sept. 9, 1914 -- The United States District Court appointed a receiver today for Isaac A. Sheppard Co., manufacturers of heaters and steam boilers. The assets are placed at $1,000,000, and the liabilities at $500,000. The failure, it was stated, was due to the inability of the company to collect outstanding bills because of financial conditions brought about by the European war.
The company, which was established 54 years ago, has plants in various parts of the country.

C. Perry Rapier · « **Reply #7 on:** March 24, 2010, 08:35:51 AM »

I don't want to be a fly in the ointment, but that piece looks like something you melt lead in to me, and not cookware at all. :-/

Ray Armstrong · « **Reply #8 on:** March 24, 2010, 08:51:01 AM »

I agree with Perry on the melting pot. However it is a very interesting piece and I'da offerd him $10 too. And probably paid the 15 as well. Gotta love haggling with the sellers, it sure is more fun than ebay.

Roger Barfield · « **Reply #9 on:** March 24, 2010, 12:56:37 PM »

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I don't want to be a fly in the ointment, but that piece looks like something you melt lead in to me, and not cookware at all. :-/

Perry, I don't think it is. There is a pretty good write up in the foundry section about Isaac A. Sheppard and Co. They made lots of cookware. I've got one of their skillets, they're old and nicely cast. The lead melting pots I've seen are unmarked and plain looking and not ornate like this one. I'd bet it's cookware.

C. Perry Rapier · « **Reply #10 on:** March 24, 2010, 01:19:30 PM »

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I don't want to be a fly in the ointment, but that piece looks like something you melt lead in to me, and not cookware at all. :-/

Perry, I don't think it is. There is a pretty good write up in the foundry section about Isaac A. Sheppard and Co. They made lots of cookware. I've got one of their skillets, they're old and nicely cast. The lead melting pots I've seen are unmarked and plain looking and not ornate like this one. I'd bet it's cookware.

I guess "ornate" is in the eye of the beholder Roger. Me, I don't see anything "ornate" about it. I just don't remember ever seeing a cooking vessel with a big pour spout on it like that, thats that small. And yes, the company made plenty of cooking items, and it also made a lot of industrial items as well. In the news clip from 1914 it does not even mention them making cooking items but does say they made "heaters and steam boilers".

But I do know they made cooking items of course. We have seen plenty examples of the pieces. But, in my opinion, as crude looking as this is, I think its intended use was for something other than cooking. :-/

Roger Barfield · « **Reply #11 on:** March 24, 2010, 01:55:17 PM »

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I guess "ornate" is in the eye of the beholder Roger. Me, I don't see anything "ornate" about it.

Perry this is they style of lead melting pot I'm use to seeing.

Will Person · « **Reply #12 on:** March 24, 2010, 05:16:48 PM »

Look at the Lodge pages and look in the "pots and sauce pans" I have my ""Lodge Lipped Water skillet #2" in there. It is identical to this item.

Will 8-)

C. Perry Rapier · « **Reply #13 on:** March 24, 2010, 05:31:10 PM »

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Look at the Lodge pages and look in the "pots and sauce pans" I have my ""Lodge Lipped Water skillet #2" in there. It is identical to this item.

Will 8-)

Will, they don't look CLOSE, I have went back and forth a couple times looking at them and comparing them. I don't know if they are the same or not, but I can't say they are not the same. :-/

Will Person · « **Reply #14 on:** March 24, 2010, 05:39:22 PM »

Here, I lifted it off of the page. I know, property of WAGS. ::)

Will 8-)

C. Perry Rapier · « **Reply #15 on:** March 24, 2010, 06:03:53 PM »

I'm sorry Will, I MEANT to say they DO look close and I have went back and forth a couple times looking at them and comparing them. And I don't know if they are the same or not, BUT, I can't say they are not the same. THERE, thats what I meant to say.

But if yours is cookware though, then I would say that the liklihood of this piece being cookware is good too.

Rick Gilley · « **Reply #16 on:** March 24, 2010, 07:13:45 PM »

Perry, when I first saw it...I wondered if it was a lead pot, but the lead pots I have seen..had a handle on them....and I don't see any evidence of lead inside...but I haven't electro it yet either. But again, my cast iron knowledge is about 1% of ya'lls.

Rick Gilley · « **Reply #17 on:** March 24, 2010, 09:52:42 PM »

Alright, I got to tell this flea market story from yesterday. I find an old gatemarked skillet...maybe a $5.00 skillet. The gentleman who had it saw me looking at it and a couple of BS&R he had. I had the gatemarked one in my hand. He said, "thats a Griswold, they just didn't mark them back then, I want $30 for it". So, I said, "It is? , How do you know". He said, "I saw it in a book I have in the truck". I said, "Oh really, I can promise you that Griswold never made a gatemarked piece, and anything gatemarked from Griswold is a recast." He said, "Well, its a Griswold, I will show you in the book if you want me to". I said, "Sure, and if it is I will buy it". Then he said, "I don't have my book with me, and I thought it was a Griswold". Just another example of the power of Wagner and Griswold Society. Knowledge is good.

Jeff Seago · « **Reply #18 on:** March 24, 2010, 09:59:15 PM »

That is an great story and I like how you threw the crap right in his face!!! Rick don't forget that there are some muffin pans with gatemarks!!

Rick Gilley · « **Reply #19 on:** March 24, 2010, 10:12:25 PM »

Thanks Jeff....maybe I should rephrase and say "Knowledge is something I need more of".

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