Author Topic: Griswold Waffle Iron High Base (Read 9656 times)

Andy Robillard · « **on:** May 08, 2010, 09:45:37 PM »

I found a standard Griswold #8 WI today and one of the waffle sides was cracked and missing a chunk of itself. The find, in my opinion, was that it was a high base. The condition was OK but each of the three pieces had a bit of surface rust. I wanted it for the high base and looked at it as a benefit that I could get it at a lower price because of the damage. I picked it up for $20 which I thought was a really good deal. Opinions?

Andy Robillard · « **Reply #1 on:** May 08, 2010, 09:46:04 PM »

Here's the underside:

Jeff Seago · « **Reply #2 on:** May 08, 2010, 09:52:05 PM »

Well I think you did well for a fully marked high base! I would gladly pay that for just the base.

One word of caution when looking for new paddles (assuming you are going to look for new paddles): make sure you get the right set. There are three different locations for the stop pins. Looks to me like yours are at 8 and 4 o'clock???

Andy Robillard · « **Reply #3 on:** May 09, 2010, 02:43:48 PM »

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Well I think you did well for a fully marked high base! I would gladly pay that for just the base.

One word of caution when looking for new paddles (assuming you are going to look for new paddles): make sure you get the right set. There are three different locations for the stop pins. Looks to me like yours are at 8 and 4 o'clock???

Yes, that's correct. I plan to use the high base with a Griswold Hearts & Star WI I picked up recently. I checked the H&S WI for the "pins" but there weren't any. Is it OK to still use the high base for the H&S even if it doesn't have the pins?

Will Person · « **Reply #4 on:** May 09, 2010, 04:27:47 PM »

You may have a hard time using this base with the H&S paddles. The base was made for paddles with pins. The paddles was made for a base to lock the handles from rotating. You may use it but find the paddles won't stay were you want them to stay. You may pour the batter into the paddles and they may rotate while pouring.

Will 8-)

Andy Robillard · « **Reply #5 on:** May 09, 2010, 06:34:06 PM »

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You may have a hard time using this base with the H&S paddles. The base was made for paddles with pins. The paddles was made for a base to lock the handles from rotating. You may use it but find the paddles won't stay were you want them to stay. You may pour the batter into the paddles and they may rotate while pouring.

Will 8-)

Hi Will,
The paddles on my H&S WI don't have the pins and are marked 18 and 928. What would be the correct high base to use?

Any advice is truly appreciated.

Will Person · « **Reply #6 on:** May 09, 2010, 06:54:33 PM »

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You may have a hard time using this base with the H&S paddles. The base was made for paddles with pins. The paddles was made for a base to lock the handles from rotating. You may use it but find the paddles won't stay were you want them to stay. You may pour the batter into the paddles and they may rotate while pouring.

Will 8-)

Hi Will,
The paddles on my H&S WI don't have the pins and are marked 18 and 928. What would be the correct high base to use?

Any advice is truly appreciated.

I don't know if there is a high base for the H&S waffle iron. Is there????

Will 8-)

Mike Bohannon · « **Reply #7 on:** May 09, 2010, 10:49:51 PM »

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You may have a hard time using this base with the H&S paddles. The base was made for paddles with pins. The paddles was made for a base to lock the handles from rotating. You may use it but find the paddles won't stay were you want them to stay. You may pour the batter into the paddles and they may rotate while pouring.

Will 8-)

Hi Will,
The paddles on my H&S WI don't have the pins and are marked 18 and 928. What would be the correct high base to use?

Any advice is truly appreciated.

I don't know if there is a high base for the H&S waffle iron. Is there????

Will 8-)

Not sure if there is a high base for all of the variations/styles of H&S waffle irons but some did have a high base. Here is a set of 919 and 920 paddles with a 915 high base. Mike

http://cgi.ebay.com/VNTG-GRISWOLD-SLANT-LOGO-HEART-STAR-WAFFLE-IRON-NO-18-/320530067224?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aa114af18

Will Person · « **Reply #8 on:** May 09, 2010, 11:31:09 PM »

Well, I guess the 915 high base works. ;)

Chuck Rogers · « **Reply #9 on:** May 09, 2010, 11:57:13 PM »

I had 2 of the 915 bases, and sold them to another member for his H+S paddle sets that he had.

Andy, if you're looking to get rid of the paddles that came with that base, I might be intrested. Let me know, and we can work out the details.

Ray Benash · « **Reply #10 on:** May 10, 2010, 01:04:08 PM »

So I have my recently obtained H&S waffle iron with high bailed base in front of me all nice and cleaned up by Chuck waiting for me to fire it up.

1. The bail? In my view the purpose of the bail or any hand typie on the base was for transport and moving it around, from and to the shelf, etc. The idea that the bail can be used to lift a low base iron on a gas/electric stove to allow you to still rotate the paddles is secondary and not a specific intention of the design IMHO.

2. My paddle set, which is the one marked 928 and 928 with both May 18 and July 17 patent marks and #18 on both is the set with no tab.

3. The hi base is marked as #88, does not have notches for tabs anywhare. The cut out where the paddle handles rest is a square cutout. This cutout has a flat bottom with a dentent into the center. The paddles have a corresponding flat area at the handle with a raised line/nipple that sets into the cutout/dentent. You roll the paddles and they settle into that detent and remain stationary without rocking.

4. So IMHO the proper hi base for the H&S paddle set is the #88.

Hope this helps.

Mike Bohannon · « **Reply #11 on:** May 10, 2010, 01:13:21 PM »

Ray, from your description your paddles and base are a match. There are 5 or 6 different variations of the Heart and Star waffle iron so not all would use the same base, high or low, as yours. Another variation of the H&S wi is in the auction link I posted above. Mike

Ray Benash · « **Reply #12 on:** May 10, 2010, 03:16:08 PM »

Yes, there are a bunch of different versions for sure. But - if you have H&S paddles without tabs on them you would use a base without tabs cutouts around the rim of the base. For a hi base then for H&S paddles/wo tabs - is there more than one style hi base other than a #88 other than bailed vs handled version?

Roger Barfield · « **Reply #13 on:** May 10, 2010, 03:18:26 PM »

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Yes, there are a bunch of different versions for sure. But - if you have H&S paddles without tabs on them you would use a base without tabs cutouts around the base. For a hi base then for H&S paddles/wo tabs - is there more than one style hi base other than a #88?

I have one that isn't the #88.

Ray Benash · « **Reply #14 on:** May 10, 2010, 07:48:26 PM »

Hey Roger - that's what I'm trying to get at. What's the number on that hi base you're referring to? Does it have a bail or handles?

Roger Barfield · « **Reply #15 on:** May 11, 2010, 12:01:43 AM »

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Hey Roger - that's what I'm trying to get at. What's the number on that hi base you're referring to? Does it have a bail or handles?

Ray, I had to hunt it down in my "to be cleaned" stack. It is a bail type. I didn't remember it, but it is marked NO 88 on one side and Patt 153 A on the other side. I didn't remember it having the NO 88 at all, but it is there. I need to get that one cleaned up.

Andy Robillard · « **Reply #16 on:** May 11, 2010, 07:44:01 AM »

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I had 2 of the 915 bases, and sold them to another member for his H+S paddle sets that he had.

Andy, if you're looking to get rid of the paddles that came with that base, I might be intrested. Let me know, and we can work out the details.

Hi Chuck,
I haven't completely decided what to do with the paddles yet. I was thinking of using the broken side as the "pilot" piece after I set up an electrolysis tank. I expect that cleaning the WIs will be a little tougher than skillets, etc. so I was thinking of getting some practice in on that one before I attempt to clean my hearts & stars.

I'll post a picture of the paddles later today and you can let me know what you think.

Ray Benash · « **Reply #17 on:** May 11, 2010, 03:01:34 PM »

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Hey Roger - that's what I'm trying to get at. What's the number on that hi base you're referring to? Does it have a bail or handles?

Ray, I had to hunt it down in my "to be cleaned" stack. It is a bail type. I didn't remember it, but it is marked NO 88 on one side and Patt 153 A on the other side. I didn't remember it having the NO 88 at all, but it is there. I need to get that one cleaned up.

I had it a little easier, pulled mine out of the trunk of the car. Still sitting there from when I picked it up from Chuck after electro ;)

Ok so yours is a bailed #88/153 as well.

Now back to Andy - since his his H&S paddles are 18/928 without tabs. The correct base IMHO would be #88/153 (hi base with bail) or #88/155 (hi base with side handles). Also in the BB index as such.

Chuck Rogers · « **Reply #18 on:** May 11, 2010, 03:14:38 PM »

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I had 2 of the 915 bases, and sold them to another member for his H+S paddle sets that he had.

Andy, if you're looking to get rid of the paddles that came with that base, I might be intrested. Let me know, and we can work out the details.

Hi Chuck,
I haven't completely decided what to do with the paddles yet. I was thinking of using the broken side as the "pilot" piece after I set up an electrolysis tank. I expect that cleaning the WIs will be a little tougher than skillets, etc. so I was thinking of getting some practice in on that one before I attempt to clean my hearts & stars.

I'll post a picture of the paddles later today and you can let me know what you think.

Sounds good andy. I'm always looking for spare paddles that will someday have a match to them. No luck yet, but Maybe yours wil complete a set. I'll be watching for the pics.

Ray Benash · « **Reply #19 on:** May 11, 2010, 03:25:39 PM »

Just for the record - updated my previous post.

Also - I think if Andy wanted to that his paddles would work OK without rolling uncontrollably in that side handled hi base he has in his original photos. Even if it would be a marriage, it would work until he found a 88/153 88/155 base.

The cut out for the handles opposite the hinge has a flat bottom just like his H&S #18 paddle handles should have. It should mate to them and not rock only minimally. The only thing is the indent in the cutout and that really has not effect as far as the paddles rolling. Andy have you tried mounting your paddles into that base? Give it a try and let us know.

Caveat is that with that indent I can roll my paddles a quarter of a turn at a time and they will hold position. Without the ident his may turn just a tiny amount due to the raised/ridged area on the paddle mating surface. He would be able to turn and hold a quarter turn at a time, but I think that's a secondary affect and not intended actually - you typically are doing 180 degree flip anyway. But that should be negligible. Would be good to know. In any case it would be easy to take a small round file to it and create the indent in the bottom land of the cutout if he wanted to.

To see a hi base H&S look in the BB on page 92. This one has the pins though. This style Hi base = PN915 Mine looks the same, no pins.

In fact I'll make a stretch and guess that #8 and #9 H&S and #8 and #9 regular irons use interchangeable bases (hi or low). Given they are same period/version of manufacture. I.E. pins/position and those that did not have pins. There were regular paddles with and with out pins in regular #8, correct? Stands to reason in my small mind ;D

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